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Expert Interview Series: Part 12

Expert Interview Series: Part 12 Efficiently managing marketing operations, campaigns, and workflows in Marketo -with Miray V, Marketo Solution Archit...

Expert Interview Series: Part 12

Efficiently managing marketing operations, campaigns, and workflows in Marketo

-with Miray V, Marketo Solution Architect and Sr. Marketing Operations Manager, Qualcomm.

A marketing platform’s intuitiveness depends not only on its software features, which can be manifold yet misapplied, but especially on how well and smoothly those features align with a marketer’s vision in today’s landscape. The real test is how effectively it helps marketers navigate the complex terrain of marketing, sales, and customer touchpoints.

Marketo not just meets the standard in both areas, but raises it. We caught up with Miray V, a Marketo Solution Architect at Qualcomm, to explore the platform’s unique strengths and subtleties, providing insights that can empower marketers like you to use Marketo more strategically. Over to her!

In the realm of marketing automation solutions, Marketo stands out as a robust platform. In your expert opinion, which domains or types of businesses do you believe Marketo is particularly well-suited for, and what key attributes or functionalities make it a standout choice in those contexts?

Miray V : Marketo is widely recognized as a powerful marketing automation platform, especially for B2B companies and sectors such as technology, healthcare, and higher education. These areas often require detailed strategies for managing and nurturing leads, a task at which Marketo excels.

I believe a key strength of Marketo is its extensive lead management features. It provides sophisticated tools for segmentation, lead scoring, and nurturing, enabling businesses to effectively engage with prospects throughout different stages of the buying process. This is particularly important for B2B organizations, where sales cycles can be lengthy and intricate.

Moreover, Marketo’s excellent integration with various CRM systems is crucial for ensuring that marketing and sales teams are synchronized. This integration helps both teams to access consistent data, facilitating a more collaborative and effective approach to converting leads into customers.

Marketo provides valuable insights into campaign effectiveness and consumer behavior, enabling companies to make informed decisions and continuously refine their marketing tactics.

With its comprehensive features like advanced lead management and seamless CRM integration, Marketo is an ideal solution for businesses aiming to enhance their marketing automation strategies, particularly in complex sales environments and customer interaction scenarios.

Can you explain how we can leverage predictive analytics and machine learning within Marketo to enhance lead scoring and predictive marketing efforts?

Miray V : In my opinion, integrating predictive analytics and machine learning within Marketo not only enhances your marketing strategies but also maximizes the robust features of Marketo itself. We can leverage these new technologies i n many ways in Marketo, but here are some that come to mind:

Enhanced Lead Scoring

Utilize Marketo’s dynamic lead scoring capabilities by incorporating machine learning models that analyze historical conversion data. This approach allows you to refine how scores are assigned based on a lead’s likelihood to convert, making the scoring process more nuanced and predictive.

Segmentation and Targeting

Leverage Marketo’s advanced segmentation tools to group leads based on predictive analytics. This enables you to create more focused and effective marketing campaigns. For instance, Marketo can automate the sending of personalized emails to segments predicted to be most receptive at times when they are most likely to engage.

Personalization at Scale

Marketo’s personalization features can be enhanced with machine learning to analyze data from user interactions across multiple channels. This analysis helps in crafting customized messages and content that resonate with individual preferences, which can be automatically distributed through Marketo’s campaign management tools.

Automation of Nurturing Tracks

Marketo’s automation capabilities can be configured to trigger specific nurturing tracks based on the predictive scoring and segmentation. This means leads receive content and interactions that are most likely to move them down the funnel, based on their predicted behaviors and preferences.

It is important to keep in mind that in order to implement and/or use advanced features, you need a solid integration of Marketo with CRM and other data sources. These integrations offer a comprehensive view of each lead and customer, enhancing the data that powers your predictive analytics models.

Is it necessary to re-enter client secret keys in Marketo when they undergo renewal or are the credentials automatically updated to reflect the changes?

Miray V : The client secret in Marketo is essentially a password used to secure communications between your Marketo instance and other applications. It’s part of the OAuth authentication process, which helps to ensure that only authorized applications can access your data. Think of it as a key that unlocks your Marketo data for trusted applications. You need to keep this client secret safe and confidential to protect your data’s security. If any application that integrates with your Marketo instance undergoes a renewal that includes updating their client secret, you will need to manually update the new client secret in your Marketo settings. This ensures that the integration remains functional and secure, maintaining a proper connection between the services.

What steps can be taken to prevent a Marketo form submission from updating the existing data in the Lead Source field?

Miray V : Every organization has a different approach to managing Lead Sources, which represent how a lead initially enters the database. It’s crucial not to overwrite this field when other actions are taken, as the Lead Source provides essential historical context for each lead. When a person fills out a form, there are specific steps you can take to ensure that a Marketo form submission does not update the existing data in the Lead Source field

Field Blocking in Admin Settings

  • Access the Admin section of your Marketo account.
  • Select Field Management.
  • Locate the Lead Source field in the list.
  • Click on the field name to view its details.
  • Opt to block field updates and choose the sources from which updates should be blocked, such as form fill-outs. This action prevents any forms from updating the Lead Source field.

Use of Hidden Form Fields

  • When creating or editing your form, incorporate a hidden field for the Lead Source.
  • Assign the default value of this hidden field as the existing value of the Lead Source field, using tokens (e.g., {{lead.Lead Source}}) if the value needs to be dynamically inserted.
  • Since the field is hidden, it remains unchangeable by users, and submitting the form with this field ensures the original value is preserved.

Conditional Logic in Smart Campaigns

  • Set up a Smart Campaign that activates upon form submission.
  • Implement a filter to verify if the Lead Source is already populated.
  • In the Flow step, configure a Change Data Value action to update the Lead Source only if it is currently empty or under specific conditions, ensuring updates occur only when appropriate.

JavaScript Customization on Forms

  • If you’re proficient with JavaScript, you can directly modify the form’s behavior on your webpage.
  • Develop a script to assess the Lead Source field’s value when the form loads. If a value is present, the script can either eliminate the field from the form or disable it, thus preventing any modifications.

Regular Audits and Data Management

  • Conduct regular audits of your data management practices to ensure there are no unintended updates to critical fields like Lead Source.
  • Develop a script to assess the Lead Source field’s value when the form loads. If a value is present, the script can either Establish alerts or reports to inform you of any unexpected changes to the Lead Source field.

Implementing these measures will help you effectively control the updating process of the Lead Source field in Marketo, ensuring that this vital data remains intact and accurate.

What are the best ways to leverage Marketo for lead nurturing, including drip campaigns, lead progression, and content recommendations to move leads through the funnel?

Miray V : Marketo offers robust functionalities for lead nurturing, making it an invaluable asset for guiding leads through the sales funnel. Understanding the differences between Drip Campaigns and Engagement Programs and choosing the right approach based on your company’s needs is crucial for optimizing the lead journey.

  1. Drip Campaigns

    are a series of emails automatically sent out based on specific timelines or actions taken by the lead. These campaigns are highly effective for maintaining regular contact and gradually feeding information to prospects. Drip campaigns work well for leads that are at the top of the funnel, where the goal is to build awareness and keep your brand top-of-mind. They can be customized to trigger based on events such as downloading a white paper, signing up for a webinar, or visiting specific pages on your website.

  2. Engagement Programs

    on the other hand, are designed to dynamically interact with leads based on their engagement level. Marketo’s Engagement Programs allow you to nurture your leads by providing content that is directly relevant to each stage of their journey. This type of program uses sophisticated logic to adapt the nurturing path, depending on how leads interact with the content. For instance, if a lead shows high engagement by opening emails and clicking on links, the program can accelerate or intensify the content flow, or even move the lead to a more advanced nurturing track.

    Choosing between a Drip Campaign and an Engagement Program depends largely on the specific needs and behaviors of your audience, as well as your overall marketing goals. Drip campaigns are generally simpler to set up and are great for straightforward, linear nurturing paths. In contrast, Engagement Programs are better suited for creating a personalized experience that adapts to the lead’s behavior, which can lead to higher engagement and conversion rates.

    Incorporating the right mix of Drip Campaigns and Engagement Programs into your Marketo strategy ensures that you are not only reaching out to potential customers but are also engaging them with content that matches their level of interest and stage in the buying process.

What are the advanced email deliverability and anti-spam strategies that we can implement within Marketo to ensure our emails reach the inbox and avoid being marked as spam?

Miray V : I am glad you ask this question, implementing email deliverability and anti-spam strategies in Marketo requires careful planning and execution. Here are some key points to keep in mind to ensure your emails not only reach the inbox but also engage your audience effectively

  1. Maintain a Healthy Database and Segment Your Audience

    Regularly clean your email list to remove inactive subscribers and incorrect addresses. It’s advisable to use enrichment tools and/or email verification tools to keep all invalid email addresses away from your instance. Additionally, using Marketo to create specific segments can enhance email relevance and engagement, which helps to improve email deliverability.

  2. Use SPF, DKIM, and DMARC Authentication and Leverage IP Warming

    Setting up SPF (Sender Policy Framework), DKIM (DomainKeys Identified Mail), and DMARC (Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting, and Conformance) records can significantly boost your credibility with ISPs. These protocols verify that your emails are legitimately from your domain and not spoofed, reducing the likelihood of them being flagged as spam.

    If you’re using a dedicated IP to send out emails, it’s important to build its reputation gradually. Start by sending emails to engaged subscribers and then slowly increase the volume. Marketo can help schedule these campaigns to optimize engagement and minimize the risk of being blacklisted.

  3. Responsive Email Design and Optimize Email Content

    Ensure that your emails are designed to be mobile-friendly. A significant portion of users access their email on mobile devices, and emails that display poorly on these devices are likely to be deleted or marked as spam. Marketo’s email templates are responsive and can be tested across different devices before dispatch.

    Avoid spam triggers in your email content. This includes steering clear of excessive use of sales-oriented words like “free,” “guarantee,” or “no obligation.” Utilize Marketo’s A/B testing features to test different versions of your content and subject lines to see what resonates best with your audience without triggering spam filters.

  4. Monitor Deliverability Metrics

    Marketo offers detailed analytics capabilities that help you track important deliverability metrics like open rates, click rates, bounce rates, and spam complaints. By keeping an eye on these metrics regularly, you can identify and resolve issues promptly, safeguarding your sender reputation and enhancing the effectiveness of your email campaigns.

What are the current trends and innovations in marketing automation that we should take into account when utilizing Marketo to enhance our competitiveness and elevate our marketing initiatives?

Miray V : This is a great question. In the rapidly evolving world of Marketing Operations, it’s crucial to leverage the full capabilities of Marketo to stay ahead. I believe there are 2 key areas to focus on to elevate your Marketo instance

AI and Machine Learning

By leveraging AI and machine learning within Marketo, marketers can automate complex processes, make data-driven decisions, and deliver more personalized, effective marketing campaigns that resonate with their audience and drive conversions.

Content Personalization

Dynamic content personalization is a trend that continues to grow. Marketo enables the customization of content displayed to different users based on their preferences, behaviors, and past interactions, making your communications more relevant and engaging.

In what ways can Marketo be leveraged to implement account-based marketing strategies with a focus on personalized messaging and targeted initiatives at the account level?

Miray V : Marketo allows you to score accounts based on criteria that indicate their likelihood to buy, which can be customized to reflect the unique attributes of your target accounts. This helps in prioritizing and tailoring your marketing efforts to the most promising accounts.

  • Use Marketo to segment accounts based on specific criteria and employ dynamic content to create personalized campaigns that resonate with each segment.
  • Utilize Marketo’s automated workflows to nurture leads at the account level, ensuring timely and relevant engagement to guide them through the sales funnel.
  • Engage target accounts across multiple channels seamlessly while using Marketo’s analytics tools to track campaign effectiveness and refine strategies for improved outcomes.

How does the implementation of a smart list contribute to account-based marketing in Marketo, and what steps can be taken to set up and optimize its use? Additionally, how does leveraging a smart list enhance the effectiveness of email marketing within an Account-Based Marketing strategy?

Miray V : First of all I want to say the smart lists are essential in Marketo various marketing strategies beyond ABM .I think biggest contribution of the use of the Smart List for ABM is to ensure Enhanced Targeting ; Smart lists help in refining the targeting process by using filters to select accounts based on specific criteria such as industry, company size, engagement level, and past interactions. This ensures that marketing efforts are concentrated on the accounts that are most likely to convert, increasing overall campaign efficiency.

  1. Setting Up and Optimizing Smart Lists for ABM Marketing Strategy:

    Regularly clean your email list to remove inactive subscribers and incorrect addresses. It’s advisable to use enrichment tools and/or email verification tools to keep all invalid email addresses away from your instance. Additionally, using Marketo to create specific segments can enhance email relevance and engagement, which helps to improve email deliverability.

    • Define Your Objectives Before creating a smart list, clearly define what you aim to achieve with your ABM campaign. Whether it’s increasing engagement, generating leads, or driving sales, your objectives will guide the criteria for your smart list.
    • Select Relevant Criteria Choose the filters that align with your campaign objectives. Marketo offers a variety of filtering options such as demographic data, behavioral data, and custom fields. The right combination of these filters will help you target the most relevant accounts.
    • Test and Refine After setting up your smart list, run tests to check its effectiveness. Analyze engagement metrics and refine your list based on performance data. Continuous testing and optimization are key to maximizing the impact of your smart lists.
    • Monitor and Update Regularly The needs and behaviors of accounts can evolve. Regular monitoring and updating of smart lists are essential to ensure they remain relevant and effective in targeting the right accounts.
  2. Enhancing Email Marketing Effectiveness with Smart Lists for ABM Strategy

    Regularly clean your email list to remove inactive subscribers and incorrect addresses. It’s advisable to use enrichment tools and/or email verification tools to keep all invalid email addresses away from your instance. Additionally, using Marketo to create specific segments can enhance email relevance and engagement, which helps to improve email deliverability.

    • Segmentation for Personalization: Smart lists allow for detailed segmentation, which can be used to personalize email content. Tailored emails resonate better with recipients, leading to higher open and click-through rates.
    • Trigger-based Campaigns: Utilize smart lists to set up trigger-based email campaigns. For example, sending a customized email when a target account engages with a specific piece of content can significantly boost engagement.
    • A/B Testing: Smart lists facilitate A/B testing of email campaigns to different segments. This testing helps in understanding what works best for each segment, allowing for optimized email strategies.

How can AI be effectively applied in Marketo for businesses, and have you experienced benefits from utilizing AI tools in Marketo automation, enhancing your marketing optimization efforts?

Miray V : There are numerous AI applications used for Marketo, but I want to focus on how using AI tools has revolutionized lead scoring for optimal results. In the modern marketing landscape, traditional lead scoring often falls short in delivering quality leads to the sales pipeline. By leveraging AI to analyze historical data and identify patterns, businesses can predict which leads are most likely to convert. This capability allows companies to prioritize their efforts and tailor follow-ups more effectively. Employing AI in this way not only streamlines the process but also enhances the efficiency and effectiveness of marketing campaigns, ensuring that resources are directed toward the most promising lead.

As we come to the end of this interview, our readers would like to know if there are any lesser-known but beneficial Marketo tools that you’ve embraced but aren’t widely utilized. Additionally, what tools do you wish Marketo to introduce in the times to come to streamline and expedite certain processes?

Miray V : Absolutely, I’m glad to share some insights on that. I’d like to highlight Marketo Sales Insight, which I believe is a powerful feature but tends to be underutilized. This feature enhances the alignment between sales and marketing teams by providing sales representatives with real-time insights into the behavior and interests of leads and customers. Sales teams can see which marketing materials a prospect has interacted with, which can inform more personalized and effective sales strategies. However, despite its potential to streamline and enhance sales efforts, Sales Insight is not as widely adopted as it could be.

Looking ahead, I would love to see Marketo introduce more advanced artificial intelligence and machine learning capabilities. Specifically, tools that could predict customer behaviors and automate content personalization at a deeper level would be fantastic. This would not only streamline the marketing process but also significantly enhance the precision and effectiveness of our campaigns.

To use Marketo to its fullest potential, you need an accurate, detailed understanding of the platform. And now you know what’s in the box to think outside of it.
Watch this space for more insightful conversations in the next quarter. Till then, happy marketing!

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Priyanka Vyas

Priyanka is a skilled Team Leader with 11+ years of experience at Mavlers. Deeply passionate about exploring Multiple Email Service Provider tools, she excels in team management, client satisfaction, and transparent communication, ensuring the success of every project. Apart from this, she is an Automation Specialist in Marketo.

Swati Fulsunge

Swati is a digital marketing expert at Email Uplers. She has a strong marketing background, and keenly follows developments shaping the technological landscape, especially matters pertaining to Artificial Intelligence. When not at work, she cherishes quality moments with her family and friends.



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